I was doing some genealogy research when I discovered my great grandfather was a well known member of the 18th Kentucky Infantry. I personally dont find that as convincing as the case that slaves themselves deserved compensation, and while there were strong political and practical reasons owners were compensated upon abolition but not their former slaves, it doesnt leave a great moral taste in the mouth that twas so. Tim says there might be some truth to them for the Caribbean. Slaves were crowded in a new environment with new diseases. There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. "They're not looking to history only to make them feel good and give them comfort, but they're looking to history to tell them things about truths about their society that we have traditionally edited out of British history.". Surely the US has already spent much more than that on black Americans. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. But you need a different approach if you dont think great-grandkids of the Confederacy are still fair game.) "Incorporating the stories of people like Equiano is merely part of a process of looking at all of British history; not just being selective, not only going to the chapters that make us feel good about ourselves or proud.". Needless to say, the national mood changed. Over 150 years in America. He previously worked at JP Morgan for 18 years in a number of senior roles and was . The enslaved Africans had to wait another five years for their freedom and were not given a penny. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser.. The world has seen more slavery since its abolition than before. They did not pay for them and were going to kill a lot of them anyway. The South Sea bubble, the greatest financial crash of the 18th century, was intimately connected to Britains dealings with Africa, though this is rarely acknowledged by historians. The novel became the bestselling book of 19th-century Britain; it was adapted for the theatre and generated mass-produced merchandise playing cards, jigsaws, tableware. "The small minority whose history had been airbrushed out of the national story recovered that history with the help of their allies and then broadcast it, spread it into our national conversation and they did that within the space of half a century. Both groups today, especially the former, could reasonably claim historic persecution has reduced their present income and wealth. White people will take it. The arguments do you want to get shaken down for several trillion? There is an alternative argument that it is their ancestors who were wronged hence deserve compensation and as descendants theyre entitled to an inherited share (so their portion depends on how many slaves at what position in the family tree) plus interest, regardless of how well theyre doing now. Well one economist has worked out the amount to be paid (although not on a damages basis, when one imagines blacks might end up paying whites, but on a close the wealth gap basis): A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap. Once insignificant villages, great cities such as Liverpool, Bristol and Glasgow sprang up on the profits of slavery. Joining them is Psychologist and Lecturer at Lancaster University, Dr David Tod, for a fascinating conversation about the psychology of acting. You can pay all the reparation for historical slavery related wrongs, real or imaginary, you want. And they will go looking for parts of the past that aren't on the curriculum, and they evidently do. They also ran a slave trade to the Ottoman empire and white slavery in the north without any help from Europeans. A covering letter would be a courtesy but probably not a necessity. He presented the recent series of A House Through Time on BBC 2, and Black and British: A Forgotten History. Maybe someone should advise him to button his lip before he stirs up something he may not like. 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . So is Richard Murphy. If more African-Americans started to vote Republican and the Democrats felt they needed something radical to boost their offer, and had enough support from liberal whites and other groups to risk further losses among blue-collar whites, for example. You may concede a point here, a point there. What would happen to that money, who knows, but as its (or was) your money, thats between you and your grifter of choice. She wasnt interested in my academic pursuit. Tull played professional football for Northampton but instead of signing up for Glasgow Rangers, he enlisted. If we look back history is just an unending series of atrocities. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Equiano is also mentioned in Incomparable World, a novel by SI Martin, which was selected by Booker award-winning author Bernardine Evaristo for her Black Britain: Writing Back series. They included Josiah Wedgwood (the pottery entrepreneur), Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson. Dont even get me started on the Moors, Arabs and Ottomans, As for getting rich many African tribes kept slaves and their societies did not get rich. I had a girlfriend whose mother was a Nazi. Sugar plantations were bad. They all get it from White people inciting violence. Thats fine, BraveFart. Which of those societies does Olusogas ancestry come from? "The phenomena of which he is iconic is one that we have written out, edited out of our nation. You might have heard of a Romano-British chap called Patrick, got enslaved and nabbed to Ireland? * the legal institution and pretty much the practice The German survivors of Stalingrad were sent to camps and most of them worked to death. ), Who is fundamentally right about reparations for slavery? Peter Pan & Wendy is a live-action reimagining of the J.M . Cheap ass presentism. "So when black history was missing - the history of empire, the history of slavery - was missing from my history lessons, I didn't have a place to go to discover those missing chapters. Because it isnt about who you are, its about who your ancestors were. Thousands of petitions were presented to parliament. Re putting the argument for paedophilia they actually gave Gide the Nobel prize for literature didnt they? It doesnt end with the parties saying Well that was pleasantly intellectually stimulating, now lets have a nice game of cricket Youre opponents are not playing by the same rules as you are. If Olusoga is looking for apologies or compensation for slavery, I am quite prepared to meet him, accept his apology, togehr with cash, cheque or even a postal order. Needless to say they should pay us reparations for this too. It does not take people long to starve to death and slaves were paid for. The vast majority of Americans are not guilty. For some peculiar reason possibly because theres a section of Western society has become very insecure about its own position its being some credence. Exactly, bis. Guess wed have to print it. Presumably there were normal times when food was cheap that you fed your workers and didnt seek to replace them in the way Olusoga means. It costs money to replace them and after a famine the price of slaves would rise. Anybody can do this. It is a form of self-loathing. Wrong ?!?! A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). I think a case could be made. I still find arguing the toss, or watching others doing so, interesting partly because it shows how the viewpoints are divergent, how many arguments are self-interested, what social, cultural and economic forces are at work behind it all. I could just as well feel something else entirely, and Im sceptical of all approaches to impose a supposedly universal, timeless or even just coherent, thats a challenge in itself ethical system. I havent the faintest idea whether slavery in the Roman controlled areas of Britain was more along the continental Roman model or retained Celtic characteristics. Full text must be online somewhere but theres an extract at https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings. But slaves were more valuable, so the British fought the Spanish for a share in the trade and eventually came to dominate it. We aint paying no goddam reparations & no-ones gonna make us. It has been reissued by publishing house Hodder and Prof Olusoga has written the foreword. And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on.. Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister, since had I not done so, its quite possible though we cannot be sure that someone else would have tortured her then murdered her, which is even worse, so whos the real criminal? Which is that I still murdered your sister. Flyover Americans arent going to take it. Intellectually more convincing anyway for practical and political purposes, demolishing a straw-man often makes a better video or audio clip while simultaneously making your opponents position sound stupid. The details of difference are fairly minor. Those aged 11-14 have to be taught about the British Empire between 1745-1901, however the slave trade is one of nine examples given by the Department of Education on what can be taught. The stars are out as Dr Pete Olusoga explores the psychology of stage and screen with the wonderful British actor (and Coronation Street veteran), Shobna Gulati. Had a vault for the more inflammatory pieces. Anti-black riots broke out in Liverpool that year. Watching @worstall execute @richardjmurphy is like watching a very, very clever cat slowly killing at ataxic mouse. Women such as Elizabeth Heyrick continued to lobby for the abolition of slavery. Such sources give his writing freshness, originality and compassion. A weekly round-up of some of the best articles featured in the most recent issue of the New Statesman, sent each Saturday. That was a bad experience but he should know that you cannot judge a whole country by what happened when he was young. You lost those two. And the transatlantic slave trade? They are now CM scum and couldnt care less about America. It could have ended earlier, but the planter interests in parliament defeated William Wilberforces attempts. Women, denied a meaningful role in politics, formed their own organisations, writing tracts, pamphlets and poems, gathering signatures for petitions and fundraising: At certain times and in certain places they were the engine room of the movement.. How could Britain, a civilised and Christian nation, indulge in rape, torture, killing and the forced labour of Africans over two centuries? I assume he is not very bright and Race Hustling is very lucrative. And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? The masses who once supported black freedom now campaigned for the Deep South. if he wants to be an historian he should present a fair and realistic picture of what happened, Your email address will not be published. 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