Normally I don’t do accuracy testing since it isn’t really telling without a Ransom Rest and every type of ammo you can find, but what the heck. Considering the cost difference, the clear value is the CZ P10c vs the FN 509. FN 509 vs Glock 19 gen5 vs M&P 2.0 Compact. Maybe? Discussion in 'Knives, Gear, Guns And Other Tools' started by Bruno_GO, Mar 29, 2018. The fact remains that it is a pistol that has far better features than the Glocks I normally gravitate towards, shoots better, and frankly has a better aftermarket trigger option than anything that I have felt on the Glock platform. Patrick is a firearms enthusiast that values the quest for not only the best possible gear setup but also pragmatic ways to improve his shooting skills across a wide range of disciplines. The reason that you don’t see this on some other guns like Glocks is their magazine has an over-insertion stop built into the body of the magazine preventing over-insertion with an internal frame feature. No problems and I had them in a couple weeks. You owe it to yourself to shoot both. There’s your $40 difference in MSRP. Once I function checked the FN 509 Midsize with the Tactical slide and barrel, I swapped slides since I prefer a red dot on my carry gun. Like the other 509s, the Midsize uses interchangeable backstraps. I don’t feel as though I lose any control over the gun with the shorter grip, especially when shooting quickly. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Striker-Fired Compact Pistol *Buying ammo from LuckyGunner.com helps support HandgunHero. Everything else seems to be the same as the original, and it should be possible to put the top half of a 509 Tactical onto the Midsize frame or use the 17 round mags for the 509 and FNS-9 if you don't mind them … While the size is something that should be mentioned, it isn’t noticeably larger. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. At some point, I'd definitely like to get a better trigger on it at some point if one exists. No Ransom Rest here, I wanted to know what the gun would so in my hands. He values truthful, honest information above all else and had committed to cutting through marketing fluff to deliver the truth. What do y’all say and what input do you have? Let's look at the All NEW FN 509 Tactical and some of the Custom Mods that I have on it and see if it's better than the Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS & Glock 45. Like previously mentioned, this is because magazine over-insertion is prevented with the floorplate or spacer sleeve. Other 10 round groups at 10-yards were 1.976″ with S&B 124-grain FMJ, 2.135″ with Federal HST 147-grain JHP, and 2.773″ with Winchester 9mm NATO 124-grain. The Glock 19x has been modified by ATEI with froward serrations and an RMR Pro cut. No worries though, FN tells me that they see similar lifespans on the two spring weights as long as you are shooting ONLY +p ammunition. It's here , the comparison of the current 'mid-size' carry segment king, Glock 19, and an up & coming attempted coup make, the FN 509 M. Who will win the throne? While I will talk more about it in the shooting section, the pistol no longer feels oversprung with 115-grain ammunition like the Blaser Brass Black Pack ammo I have a ton of. 19 Posts #11 • Jun 16, 2011 (Edited) I have both the Glock 19 (2nd gen) and a few months old FNX 9. The U.S. Army chooses based upon what the U.S. Army thinks is important. It's really a great alternative to the Glock 19! I've haven't used the mag that came with it in ages. FN accomplished this by reshaping the fence around the magazine button so it is easier accessed. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. The old plastic cases were sturdy but too big to be practical for everyday use. Both groups shown below were shot unsupported, in a standing position. While there is nothing wrong with the stock trigger, why not replace it with an improved one when you have one laying around? I think so. Putting a mid-size slide on a full size slide is hardly ground-breaking. I can't say that I fell in love with it instantly but I'm getting used to it. If FN pistols were all they were cracked up to be, they would be carried by more LE Agencies. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. The new FN 509 Midsize is almost identical to the FN 509 released at back in 2017 with the exception of the 15-round capacity and some other small parts. Midwest Gun Works has lots of parts for the 509. VS. FN . Again, that doesn't seem to happen with my other pistols. Now were are getting the FN 509 Tactical. It's everything a shooter could want in a modern tactical handgun. They already make a ALS holster (I don't recall the model but will post it later if needed) for the 509 regular version. Compare the dimensions and specs of Glock G19 and FN 509 Compact Tactical Facing In; Back-to-Back ; Facing Up; Back … You can see hints of the Mossberg MC1sc, FN 509 and the other best compact handguns on the market. I’m not saying buy an FN. ARCHIVED; Posted: 11/20/2018 11:53:54 PM EST I'm not in a rush but eventually I'd like something that will be a nice suppressor host. The end result is a gun that can take it to any of the best 9mm … Using Brownells prices, the FN 509 M should come out to $559 on Brownells, $20 less than the Standard 509.A Glock 19 with metal sights is $599.99 … The SIG P320 Compact has very similar dimensions as the Glock 19. Both of these guns are modified versions of Glock and FN Herstal Modular Handgun (MHS) submissions. What most people are going to focus on is the shorter frame, and rightly so. FN is a name that has heavily impacted the military world for decades . I will caution the use of 17 or 24-round magazines in the FN 509 Midsize at this time. According to the official numbers from FN and from Glock, the 509 Midsize is 0.01" wider, 0.16" taller, 0.12" longer, and 2.51 ounces heavier than a Glock 19 Gen5. If magazines were cheaper, the FN 509 MRD might replace my Glock 19 as my main carry gun. Both of these guns are modified versions of Glock and FN Herstal Modular Handgun (MHS) submissions. The stock trigger after a single 200-round range trip was only 5 pounds 6 ounces, hardly heavy. My second giant gripe is that for whatever reason, FN didn’t launch an optics ready variant of the Midsize. The HK and Walther pistols use 15-round magazines while the rest use 17-round magazines. Some people have had issues concealing the full-size grip of the Standard FN 509, the Midsize frame is only a touch shorter, but makes a world of difference. Seriously, the guy is a wizard. Compare the dimensions and specs of Glock G19x and FN 509. Compare Views. I have two gripes about the FN 509 Midsize, the first being magazine cost. Mine are all Lancers. The Midsize is no different and shares the same grippy, but not overly sharp front and rear serrations that are dang near as good as those found on an ATEi Dougified pistol. Customary Metric . The FN 509 MRD and Compact are identical in capacity and near-identical in size to the Glock 19. My biggest complaint is that, especially when shooting suppressed, it gets dirty real fast. The Octane, terrible on blowback. Glock … Had one empty space in my pistol rack so I filled it yesterday with a new FN 509. I guess it isn’t much of a surprise that when FN introduces the pistol that I was longing for from the start, I am going to like it. I seem to prefer the flat backstrap personally, but you do have the option of a curved one that bulks the grip up a bit for those with larger hands. When you compare a Glock 19 to the FN 509 Midsize MRD, they are nearly the same size. One of the things that I feel the FN 509 series did exceptionally well was slide serrations. If you can, compare a 509 to an FNS. I’ve been leaning towards the 509T but have still be split down the middle mostly. That said, I spent a metric ton of time at the range shooting B8 repair centers at 25-yards using as many ammo types as I could find in my stash. 509 Midsize. Will one of the king's brothers step in to hel But the 45 finally checks all the right boxes for me. The overall length of both is right at 7 inches, while the width of each also match closely, with the Glock … Now were are getting the FN 509 Tactical. Could I be a bit bias? As in, I can only go through 2 mags before the RMR is so dirty that it's like looking through an opaque window and has to be wiped down. Once I get the slide cut for an RMR or get an optics ready slide, the gun will get its own slide back permanently. The Fn 509 Midsize is currently available at FN dealers and carries an MSRP of $649, a bit cheaper than the 509 Standard’s MSRP. Internally the new Midsize is identical to the full-size pistol and retains full parts compatibility. Had a nice touchy/feely get acquainted session last night. Overwatch TAC trigger? You can find the rest of his work on FirearmRack.com as well as on the YouTube channel Firearm Rack or Instagram at @thepatrickroberts. The 509 series of pistols use either the baseplate of the magazine or the spacer sleeve to prevent over insertion. If you want the … The 509 Midsize will, of course, most often be compared to the GLOCK 19 Gen5 which is also an excellent gun. Both good handguns only down side to the FN is aftermarket support compared to Glock. The U.S. Army chooses based upon what the U.S. Army thinks is important. Then again, the 509 has fewer aftermarket choices, though there are more available all the time. Either way I’ll be probably modding/milling and putting a red dot on. Besides the 509, FN makes the FNX-9/40, FNS-9/40c, FNX-45, FNX-45 Tactical, FN 5.7, FN PS-90 and FN-2000. With over 1,200 rounds down range with the FN 509 Midsize and not a single malfunction, I can say that the Midsize is every bit as reliable as the standard FN 509. Find more information on the FN America website. Where the 509 really shined: its grip. Gen 4 Glock 19 ships with 3 magazines. FN 509 – $550; Glock 19 Gen 5 – $575; Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 – $550; Sphinx SDP – $799; Now, that’s not to say that each doesn’t have awesome characteristics and, in no way shape or form, am I saying the Sig P320 is superior to these guns. SIG P320 vs Glock 19. Sorta. I’m a big fan of the 509’s front slide serrations [ED: available on the GLOCK’s 2017 “Summer Specials”]. The FN 509, HK VP9 and the Glock 26 Thread starter 71velle; Start date Jun 2, 2018; Jun 2, 2018 #1 71velle.223 Rem. The FN will likely have been replaced a few times. It comes with an ambidextrous slide stop. I really wish that either FN included a one or two more mags from the factory or more preferably, dropped the price of the mags to the low to mid $30 range. From beginner to intermediate … So basically this comes down to a FN 509 or Glock 45/19X debate. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - FN 509 / Tactical or Glock 45/19X, https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7857/32715561448_70bf06eaf3_b.jpg, https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/66-100108-2. Either way I’ll be probably modding/milling and putting a red dot on. G19 Gen5. We reviewed the Apex FN 509 trigger a while back, you can read it here. If you want the other option that will take more time and money (threaded barrel and slide milling) but has a near endless aftermarket, then Glock. I say this as my p320c has a 5lb 6oz trigger and the FN owner notice that right off by missing a uspsa target at 15 yards by shooting low with what amounts to a AD buy trying to take up pre travel in the trigger and having it fire ! Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The 509 was not big and boxy, but simple and compact. It's here , the comparison of the current 'mid-size' carry segment king, Glock 19, and an up & coming attempted coup make, the FN 509 M. Who will win the throne? I can’t get my hands on a midsize to try, but everyone seems to love them. I’m … Once the holster is on, you would never know I was carrying a 4″ gun with 16-rounds of 124 +P Federal HST with a 15-round reload. Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol *Buying ammo from LuckyGunner.com helps support HandgunHero. We got the Sig Sauer XM17, the Glock 19X and the FN 509. FN 509: I’ve been looking forward to shooting the FN 509 since it came out. They will go to ATEi so Doug can work his magic sinking a red dot as far into the slide as possible. This really depends on what your goals are. I buddy picked up a FN 509 and I had a chance to shoot it. Maybe? Why? I’m not saying sell your Glock. I will add to my previous statement FN has terrible CS. With 509 mags north of $40, that is going to be offputting to most consumers. L or S? If you are curious if there is a threaded barrel that works with the Midsize for suppressors or compensators, you are in luck. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. The only real similarities are being striker fired and being a full grip on a compact slide. Also, after shooting suppressed for a while the trigger pull gets, for lack of a better way to describe it, "gritty" or it feels like a bunch of sand is in there. Compare the dimensions and specs of Glock G19 Gen5 and FN 509 Midsize. You also get a second magazine and a sticker. Round count? In this video the brand new FN 509 will be compared with a RMR'd Glock 19x. The fact remains that it is a pistol that has far better features than the Glocks I normally gravitate towards, shoots better, and frankly has a better aftermarket trigger option than anything that I have felt on the Glock platform. My point of reference and primary gun is a Glock 19.5. And we just don't see that, at all. The new shoe now had a much flatter face to aid in ensuring the trigger is … The fact that FN had built a pistol with a capacity of 17-plus-1, and yet smaller (in most respects) than a Glock 19, was impressive. Key Point: Check out the FN 509. Specifications: FN 509 … Trying to choose between the FN 509 Tactical and the Glock 45. “When customers pick up the FN 509 in comparison to other striker-fired 9mm’s, they instantly notice the ergonomics, premium finishes and price point that is competitive. When adding everything up for the Glock to be carry ready like the FN 509, I … One of the most important changes to the pistol is a redesigned frame that is not only shorter but also addresses the complaints that some had with the FN 509 Standard’s sometimes stiff magazine release. Magazines for the FN 509 are slightly more expensive than the CZ P10c magazines as well. So that will be my next handgun and I say that as a guy who really enjoys his other three modified glocks. simply put because I am a shorter guy that has less vertical real estate to stuff a gun. I am sure this is a question that you are asking yourself if you happen to own an FN 509 already, the answer is yes you can swap slides around. This doesn't happen with my sig 226 or Glock 19 when shooting suppressed. I do have 1,200 rounds through the gun though, so at least I can tell you what I think of the pistol. Trying to choose between the FN 509 Tactical and the Glock 45. Truthfully I would have preferred a holster that was no longer than the gun, preferably for a Streamlight TLR-7. What AAC can? Early in January 2019, FN dropped the 509 Midsize, giving it all the same features the FN 509 Standard has—but in a size most closely compared to the Glock 19. Using Brownells prices, the FN 509 M should come out to $559 on Brownells, $20 less than the Standard 509.A Glock 19 with metal sights is $599.99 as a point for comparison. FN ships the 509 Midsize with a spare backstrap to give you the choice of curved or flat like were included with the original 509. I should have tried it before I mounted my RMR but I imagine it would work, the other differences are not that great dimensionally aside from the threaded barrel. Manufacturer pricing for the Glock 26 Gen 4 is $649. All of that said, I fully intend to buy at least one FN 509 Midsize, possibly two since I like the idea of having a duplicate of my carry gun. Messages 1,138 Reaction score 1,086 Location Rochester. The FNS-9 Compact is $599 for the standard sight model and $649 for the night-sight configuration. The 509T doesn't fit due to the rear sight wings and/or MRDS. The CZ has a better trigger, IMO, and the grip has a really aggressive texture. I've had around 5,000 rounds on my Glock and it sometimes even jams on FMJ reloads. Please dont that is as any type comparison or a which ones better thing, … Right off the bat, all six test guns have polymer frames and steel slides. So, the question has been quite wide and controversial. I say this as my p320c has a 5lb 6oz trigger … Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; Contribute; Contact; Glock . GCBHM ... FN is a nice gun, but compares more to the P320 carry rather than the compact where as the CZ is extremely close to the Glock 19. Hey guys. We are $40 cheaper on the FN 509 M, throw in a mag and you are within a few dollars of the Glock and get real ambi-controls, forward serrations, and a nice zippered case. I don’t know why, but the FN 509 Midsize really agreed with me on the range. Posted: 1/4/2019 2:26:15 PM EST If you want something optics ready and threaded barrel out of the box, FN. The Glock 19 MOS Gen 5 came in at $1,171.96, nearly $60 more than the FN 509 Midsize MRD. The 10-yard groups were pretty impressive, the best group being on par with most pistols in this segment. Surprisingly, the 1.725″ group was shot with 115-grain Blaser Brass Black Pack ammo. I did have one failure to extract in maybe the first 500 rounds, otherwise it's been reliable. The best group was shot with Precision Delta PDP Pro 124-grain JHP at 3.163″. I do like that FN is providing a soft case with their newer pistols. Bruno_GO Member. With the flatty installed the trigger weight was now 4 pounds 6 ounces with a much smoother takeup, more positive wall, crisper break, and shorter reset. Make sure to look into Henry’s Holsters, they are great people and make some seriously good holsters. The PHLster was a natural choice since I normally carry a Glock 19 with a TLR-7 in a Spotlight (If you would like to read the PHLster Spotlight review it can be found on Firearm Rack) with an Ares Gear Aegis Enhanced belt. This can cause the slide rails to bind in the slide as well as cause damage to the ejector. They also both come with accessory rails for attaching lights and lasers. While the holster is a bit longer than I prefer, the gun carried well and I didn’t have much issue concealing it thanks to the shorter grip. Compare the dimensions and specs of Glock G19 and FN 509 Midsize These features on the Glock 19x make it comparable to the FN 509 tactical. If you’re going to throw a rds on it then the 509 tactical it has the best way to mount one and you don’t need locktite. I would like to replace the sights or more likely, have ATEi mill the slide for an RMR since the three dot sights are functional, but easy to outrun. ReX hasn’t tried to reinvent the wheel with the Rex Delta. If you’re just looking for that frame/slide combo, there’s no reason not to go with the Glock 45/19X and enjoy all the nice aftermarket support they bring with them. The 509 Midsize will, of course, most often be compared to the GLOCK 19 Gen5 which is also an excellent gun. by Gun News Daily. I am saying that if you think the barely changed basic 1980s designed Glock is the top of the food chain, you should go to rent more guns at your local range and shoot more. This gun was not your typical FN pistol; in fact it looked more like FN and Sig had worked together to design a Glock 19. My friends, I'm about to get my first carry PISTOL (I'm a revolver guy). Using an apples to apples comparison, the comparable FN model with standard sights if fifty bucks cheaper. The zippered pistol case is the same one that FN has been shipping for some time, same with the lock. I really like the FN 509 Midsize a lot, but I have been a fan of the 509 platform since the first time I got the gun on the range and really wrung it out. Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; Contribute; Contact; Glock . G19x. More on that in the conclusion. I just bought a 509 Tactical mainly because it was red dot and suppressor ready. Trying to choose between the FN 509 Tactical and the Glock 45. The FNX 9 has been more reliable than my Glock 19. In terms of … Then again, the 509 has fewer aftermarket choices, though there are more available all the time. Or, you can spend the same amount, but get tritium night sights if you choose the FN model. Customary Metric . If you want something optics ready and threaded barrel out of the box, FN. As someone who owns both, I prefer the 45 over the 509 and I generally dislike Glocks. I’m a big guy but for some reason tend to shoot smaller guns better. Federal 147-grain HST JHP produced a 4.395″ 10-round group at 25-yards, Blaser Brass 115-grain gave me a 4.895″ group at 25-yards, and the 124-grain S&B being the worst at 5.083″ at the 25-yard line. Using Brownells prices, the FN 509 M should come out to $559 on Brownells, $20 less than the Standard 509. We got the Sig Sauer XM17, the Glock 19X and the FN 509. Does the FN 509 Midsize have a chance at taking on the champ? My point of reference and primary gun is a Glock 19.5. Could I be a bit bias? All Rights Reserved. The good news is that Henry’s Holsters is currently finalizing an FN 509 holster that not only mimics the Spotlight in many great ways but also has the potential to be better for me personally because of the shape of the built-in wedge Andrew uses. Striker-Fired Compact Pistol . So basically this comes down to a FN 509 or Glock 45/19X debate. The Tactical’s barrel fits into the Midsize without issue since the slide shares internal dimensions with all other current 509 models. In the “No Rounds Non-Review” I broke down the next nearest competitor, the Glock 19 Gen 5 … You will see why the 509 was born. I don't think Silencerco did anything different to the previous made SWR can. There are some other things to consider like the much larger Glock aftermarket and magazine costs, but for professional users, those won’t be much of a factor. While you can use Glock Model 19, 17, and even 33-round magazines in the Glock 26, it’s a utilitarian solution, not an elegant one. 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